Wednesday, June 08, 2005

The Proton Savvy a.k.a. TRM

Proton's most delayed car is finally here! Pictures of this car have been circulating in the Internet since last year and was supposed to be launched in rapid succession after the Gen 2 ( along with the as yet unnamed Satria Replacement Model ). Like in my previous posting about the Myvi... I headed to the Proton showroom in Puchong directly after work.

This car stopped traffic! Literally. There was an unusual congestion along Jalan Puchong caused( if you haven't already guessed ) by people slowing down to steal a glimpse of the new Proton car. Not only that but the congestion was along both directions of the road.

The Proton showroom in Proton had 2 black Savvy's for display. I didn't see anyone abusing he car unlike what people did during the Gen 2 launch :)


Hi, I'm Proton Savvy. My name rhymes with Myvi :)


Is it just me or does it look like the Savvy logo uses the same font as the Myvi logo?

My impressions

I have always preferred the look of the Savvy over the unexciting Perodua Myvi. This really is a Proton that dares to change. I mean look at the car... it's got such bold styling ( though not necessarily appreciated by many people ). There are a few design cues here that impressed me namely the unique looking bonnet, the striking headlights, the honeycombed tail lights and the ( almost ) excellent interior design.


This is a good looking dashboard, no doubts about it. Makes me wanna drive insanely fast.


The console is stylish as well and thankfully does not contain HUGE fonts like the Myvi does.

Is it big?

In a word; no. This is where the Proton Savvy falters. The Myvi being a direct competitor to the Savvy has humongous cabin space. Sadly the Savvy suffers from the same over-arching of the rear end that the Gen 2 does.

When I sat at the back seats, my head hit the top of the car immediately... this is a sign of bad design. Why after the Gen 2 did Proton still insist on making the rear seats so cramped? I suppose I will never find out.


Nevertheless, boot space is comparable to that of the Myvi.

Related note: At a glance the Savvy's side profile looks familiar to the Kia Picanto. Rest assured though that the Picanto definitely has bigger cabin space than the Savvy.

What about the plastics?

Looks good but then again I haven't spent much time in expensive cars so I can't really appreciate the difference. One thing's for sure it looks more impressive that that of the Myvi and it's definitely better than the plastics in my rotting Iswara :)

Misc. pictures


Engine bay is neatly arranged and looks fairly less cramped that that of the Myvi.


Tried to capture the honeycomb lamps but no luck. My camera phone sucks.


The sport rims are really nice looking. They're not just covers as paultan suggested.

posted by wyejon at Wednesday, June 08, 2005 (permalink) |

37 wise words from our readers:

a golden opinion from Anonymous eAthena-Seir3n

No wonder that pic looked sooo familiar.. I'm a Puchongite too =) But the Savvy really saddened me as the 1.2 M/T is 2-4 mths away while the A/T is 4-6 Mths... =/ Why didn't they have stock before they launch -.-"

And I need my car real soon. I guess I'll ask my dad to book the MyVi now. Or any 1 wanna give up their booking?

11:09 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Paul Tan

interesting. the online specs said they are steel rims. dont they know the difference between sports rims and steel rims?

11:36 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous akari

wonder proton keep saying this car having a large cabin space in their advertisement b4 launch don't they? it's a liar?

11:56 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous eAthena-Seir3n

Booked a MyVi , btw when they say the larger cabin space they were comparing the Savvy to the Kelisa[Probably]. But definitely not the Myvi. And also the other claims I guess. ' Strongest in its class ' As in class with the Picanto , Spark? , Kelisa?

Savvy will be smoked. My prediction and my 2 cents.

5:03 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

i wonder if their mechanics are good enough to deal with the clutchless manual transmission. these things are complicated and messy. replacing the gearbox would be expensive.

9:48 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

It feels european with a good solid feel just like renault clio, VW polo, fiat panda, citroen C3. It gives a wider choice between european feel (savvy) vs Japanese/Korean feel (myvi, picanto, aveo, jazz, getz, spark etc). It will be a hit with boy racers who in UK like to modify the citroen saxo. cheers

Man

8:58 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

In Seremban, u can get the savvy in one month.

8:59 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Car freak

Myvi is so popular there's a booking queue even before launch without extensive promotion like Savvy did. Realised that Savvy was on various news, entertainment shows, etc throughout the day. On TV3 was it??

I don't think people care whether Savvy's engine looks neater or not - nobody does.

Does Proton still prohibit test driving? Is their quality THAT BAD?

Savvy will die man! You CAN test drive Perodua Myvi.

8:04 AM  

a golden opinion from Blogger wyejon

It's a shame... I'm quite taken with the Savvy but launching it after the Myvi was a catastrophic mistake. To most people the choice is obvious... Savvy or Myvi? Need I say more?

I like to think Proton is improving. They seem to be making a concerted effort to impress the public. Sadly there's so much hate for the brand that it may very well be unsalvagable.

One last point... where is the car with mass market appeal? Where is the true Wira or Iswara replacement? Gen2 does not count... it is noticably smaller than the Wira. Proton has a weird obsession with small rear headroom (apparent in Gen2 and Savvy).

12:17 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

I dont' think the old mazda 323F, toyota celica, audi TT has more rear headroom. Savvy's rear headroom is comparable to my kelisa and my former iswara. Anyway most ordinary people like me love protons.... cheers

2:50 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

I just caught the savvy on the day it was launched. My husband was quite excited and we drove out to see it. I was very disappointed. It has no features a woman like except for the front and back lights. The headroom (backseat) is so low that my son (5 ft 9 in) banged his head. The same for Gen 2. We have a old wira, still running well. It is spacious and has a big trunk. The new savvy's boot is so small. The Myvvi's trunk is small too but the seats are collapsible for extra storage space. I would choose the Myvi. By the way, what so hot about shinny black? Black cars have the highest accident records. I don't like the savvy a wee bit. Myvvi is my choice if I am shopping for a new vehicle to replace my wira.

2:08 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

To replace my WIRA, I will buy gen2 or waja, more booth space for balik kampong not MYVI. My wife kelisa is good enough for running round town.... but will consider SAVVY when kelisa's loan finishes...

9:39 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

myvi sales figure > 30 000
savvy sales figure still too low to announce
l bought my black myvi today the waiting list is 8 months

10:43 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

I am sure a 5' 9 " guy wont even fit the backseat of my friend's Merc SL

10:36 AM  

a golden opinion from Blogger wyejon

For all those who's comparing the rear cabin space of the Savvy with other (luxury/sport) cars it really doesn't change the fact that the Savvy has very bad rear head clearance.

2:20 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

I am 5' 6" tall, the back of savvy is fine for me. Its the same as my mum's kelisa.

9:56 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

Test drove the savvy on saturday, slick gear change, very quiet engine, smooth ride .. uneven road not a problem.. good insulation..., good acceration, it is an excellent car. Well done proton.

9:55 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

Hi, I'm an orang putih who now lives in Kuching, married to a local Malay lady. We currently have an 850cc auto Kancil and we're looking at both the MyVi and Savvy.

First I have only ever ridden in one Wira, a friends. In the front is OK but I frequently hit my head in the back (yes, a Wira) in fact it was my most 'striking' impression of the car. My 2nd impression was it seemed to have no power, simply making more noise and little extra speed when over-taking, though there were 4 of us in the car.

As a car enthusiast from the UK who has driven many high performance cars, from Porsche and Mercedes to high-powered small cars such as the Citroen ZX 2.0 16v, I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by the Kancil. Yes it's small but having driven small European cars of 2 decades ago (such as the Mini Metro MG Turbo) it's not that bad really. Handling is pretty good providing you don't go fast, which is not much of a problem in a Kancil..

What I'm saying is the Kancil is a relatively modern design; I've driven worse. You guys shouldn't knock Malaysian cars so much, they are fair and reasonable cars and anything that can survive the combination of heat and frequent deep water here can't be that bad. The Kancil has never, ever, let us down, despite a daily drive to Kota Samarahan and its tiny size. So I have no hesitation buying another Perodua. We will however be going for the MyVi, simply because of the auto-gearbox and the matching colors of the interior..

BTW, the Gen-2 is a pig on a stick, looks beautiful but European roadtests reveal it to be hideous. I wish Proton well with the Savvy, certainly it's better than the Gen-2!

W.

7:47 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

Have studied in UK before. Have driven the Renault Clio, Fiat Cincueito (not sure of the spelling) and Vauxhall/Opel Corsa. Definitely the Proton Savvy has the better ride and handling.

11:11 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

Have studied in UK before. Have driven the Renault Clio, Fiat Cincueito (not sure of the spelling) and Vauxhall/Opel Corsa. Definitely the Proton Savvy has the better ride and handling.

11:11 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

No competition (from market protection) will breed complacency, which is what is happening with Proton. Ever since after the first generation proton saga (which was good) they've been producing garbage (wira,waja,gen2 and all time loser..tiara) which are forced down the throats of the public. I think it's a good thing that Proton sales have been taking a nose dive in recent years. Time for them to wake up and smell the coffee. In my opinion, if you want Proton to succeed, slowly remove the protection. The added competition will do it some good

4:20 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

Hei... my wira have not given me any trouble ever since I bought it 4 years ago compared to my friend's Hyundai (ball bearing out after 3 years).... don't make sweeping statements ok...

3:05 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

Hei... my wira have not given me any trouble ever since I bought it 4 years ago compared to my friend's Hyundai (ball bearing out after 3 years).... don't make sweeping statements ok...

3:05 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

i will buy savvy rather than myvi..
myvi looks like a frog at the back..test drive ur savvy and u will know which one better for you, anyway..myvi used kembara engine..sucks!! 4wd all the time..

2:09 PM  

a golden opinion from Blogger wyejon

Yes Myvi uses the same engine as the new Kembara but the Myvi is in no way a 4wd vehicle... even if it was what's wrong with 4wd anyway?

3:03 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

there is always a pro and con
2wd = pro = save Fuel consumption
con = loss traction more.
4wd = pro good traction thus easy to control
con = bad fuel consumption

8:29 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

I've driven Honda Civic vti, Hyundai Coupe, Alpha 146..etc. Fell in luv with savvy on first sight and now proud owner of one..metallic black. Solid car, firm and suprisingly fast for such small engine. This car reminds me of my alpha...

2:48 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

i've test driven both cars, and i am in no position to comment on either cars' performances or features.

why bother comparing two locally-assembled-foreign-engine-fitted-cars when honestly speaking, we lack the sense of “safe driving”

both are pride of our nations and both are unique in it's own way...

cars are built stronger but not the users...even if its a pig on a stick!

1:54 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

mt savvy owner here.

i'm loving it. boleh la. quite fast n stable. the only thing i cant bare with savvy is that, the first few months owning it, everytime im crusing at kesas, a myvi, kenari or kelisa come cucuk me. hahaha. in less than minutes they are far left behind. no offence ya =P evyone have freedom of speach

4:12 PM  

a golden opinion from Blogger wyejon

anon: lol... the savvy is definitely faster than anything perodua offers :)

12:19 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

tested both th myvi and savvy....well final verdict....savvy of course. superb handling better than all the other protons i drove

11:52 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

I own a kancil, always smell of fuel in the cabin. yes la kancil is cheap car but I still pay 29k that time(2001). now i will buy savvy(next week recieve my car) Perodua not seriously looking at safety.....

2:14 PM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

Hi i looking for proton car at spore what coments is the the best of course i'm buying savvy car.Anyone have coment about savvy pls tell me more what good about savvy.

10:00 AM  

a golden opinion from Blogger portini

Hello,i still consider i wish someone can give me tips about savvy car.

10:12 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous zain

Hi Guys i just buy a savvy maybe someone can tell me more the car.

9:17 AM  

a golden opinion from Anonymous Anonymous

I would like to have a 14" sport rim for my Savvy, but was told to have 46mm offset, i would like to know what if the offset is 38mm...what will happen?

10:39 PM  

a golden opinion from Blogger carsNrims

i have problem finding 15' sport rims for my savvy, any 1 manage to change into 15', pls share wat rims u use, tyres size, spec of rims (PCD. OFFSET, AND SIZE OF RIMS 15 X ??)

thanks a million GUYS/GALS

4:57 PM  

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